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UBF leader admits UBF is in the WRONG


Background: In 2012 a current UBF leader (Mark O.) admits on Mr. Karcher's now archived website called Priestly nation that the UBF "church" is indeed in the wrong and hopes to reform it. I do not know if he is still a current member.


Mark O.

on 12/11/2012 at 5:08 pm said:

Frederick, a while ago I shared some of the sentiment you express in your response., especially the, “Good Lord, man, is all of this bashing really healthy?”...I am a current leader in UBF and we are now beginning to look at our unhealthy shepherding practices. Many would rather not discuss it. While I do not discount the work of the Holy Spirit to bring repentance, the Bible does call for us to keep one another accountable in Matthew 18:15-17 “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.” Question is, what happens when it is the church that is at the root of the problem. The problem is that we have allowed leaders, myself included, to go unaccounted for to our detriment. We felt things, but we never said anything. We do need to take a look in the mirror and recognize what is healthy and what is unhealthy. I was convicted several weeks ago when one brother called me out on my expectation that he “obey” my “good advice”. I have been an advocate of calling out unhealthy shepherding behaviors and here I was, doing exactly that. You don’t see it unless you are called out on it. That shows how deeply rooted these practices are. They are [unfortunately] considered norms, not unhealthy practices. By the sound of your intro, this blog site may be more of a burden to you then a help. But it is a help to many who have suffered from these practices. Your time may be better suited, if you are in UBF ministry, creating a discussion among your own leaders as to what are the healthy/unhealthy practices that are currently being practiced. As I shared with one fellow leader, it is impossible that we have not, in some form, adopted these practices, however subtle, into our own shepherding lives, especially those who have been around for a few years, 19 years for myself.


Source: http://ubfriends.net/priestlynation/hardcore-11-a-critical-review/